Zio-nuts, THIS IS YOUR PAGE. If your contribution makes it past our spam filter, you just might find it published here.
Come on Zios! This is the place for you to have your say!
Dear London BDS,
I am not a zionist. I am not Jewish. I am not Israeli. In fact I am Italian Catholic, who just so happened to have studied a great deal of middle eastern history and current affairs. I am sorry to burst your ‘bubble’ but it is not as clear cut and simple as you make out. You need to read your history more, as well as the present and see the many terrorist organisations currently operating within Gaza strip launching systematic attacks and propaganda campaigns every day. Hamas is bad news period. Websites and campaigns like yours do nothing but stir more hatred. But if that’s what you want, then it is your right to have the freedom in which to do it. You just need to bank on people not reading their history.
Andy, we were going to reply, but you showed your true colours in your previous comment:
It cheers me up to see these pro-Islamic websites, doing what they do best. Twist the truth and talk shit.
Happy to oblige Andy. That’s what this page allows people like you to do.
* 280,000: Syrians registered with the UNHCR * 360,000: The Office of the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees’ estimate. * 700,000: A UNHCR official to McClatchy. * 1.2 million: UN estimate of displaced Syrians in Syria. * 3 million: Assad regime estimate of displaced Syrians in Syria. * 10 million: Opposition estimate of displaced Syrians in Syria. Please protest about this horror!
Says a lot more about Sylvie (and other Zios) than she realises. Not a word mentioned about apartheid Israel’s violations of international law and the countless injustices committed against the Palestinian people. Sylvie, read our replies to your ramblings below.
From Sylvie (again):
Caroline Lucas’ comment ‘It’s hard not to be aware of Palestine when its the root of so many injustices in the Middle East today’ is fatuous; does she mean the injustices in Syria, the Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Afghanistan etc? Are all the brutal, savage tortures, executions of their own people, subjugation of women, death of gays all because of Palestine? Or is she yet another ignorant, arrogant narrow-minded bigot who happens to have a bit of power and is abusing her position?
Sylvie, your comment follows a similar pattern used over and over by Zio-nuts who clearly expose themselves as defenders of the apartheid state.
You fail to address the heinous crimes committed by the Israeli government or condemn the oppression and injustice taking place against the Palestinians, but instead try to deflect attention away by raising issues involving other countries.
Have you ever campaigned for human rights? We doubt it.
The part of your comment where you accuse the Rt Honourable Caroline Lucas MP of being an “ignorant, arrogant narrow-minded bigot who happens to have a bit of power and is abusing her position,” says much more about you than it does about her.
Think about it.
Boycotting legal companies that employ Palestinians and Israelis, and manufacture in a legal zone (C) should not be treated in this appalling way. Your actions compare with the Nazi boycott of the 1930′s nothing less than that. When will you admit that it is the destruction of a Jewish State that you desire. You cannot bear to see Israel thriving and contributing to the world in every sphere – medicine, technology, science, arts, law, Every thing that you use on a daily basis; computers, mobile phones (4g cellular revolution uses Israeli chipset) Developing solar power, electric cars. The list is very long. I really don’t think you should be using any of those things if you really want to boycott properly!!
Sylvie, BDS is a tactic, with a few products and sectors chosen carefully and strategically according to what can work.
It’s not necessary to boycott everything to achieve the goal of isolating Israel enough to exert pressure towards real change.
By the way, if the Nazis didn’t exist, what would you call people who disagree with you?
Well done, you must be so proud of yourselves for damaging the healthcare of the UK by helping stop get drugs to those who desperately need it due to your demonization of Israel. It seems you hate Israel more than you love the British people. Oh and another thing, boycotts harm the Palestinian economy, so how you can call yourself pro-Palestinian is beyond me, but hey don’t get let the facts get in the way.
Michael, we didn’t realise that Ahava was part of the NHS. So as part of your treatment, here are some answers from End the Occupation’s BDS FAQ page for you to read and digest:
BDS will hurt the Palestinians who are just as dependent on the Israeli economy as the Israeli’s are.
This is the same argument that was used against boycotting South African products. Lecturing the oppressed on what is best for them is patronising and ill-conceived. Any oppressed community can decide for itself what price it is willing to pay to attain freedom, justice and equal rights. South Africans stated clearly that losing their employment was a small price for freedom to live and work. Palestinians say the same.
Forcing Israel to reverse these policies will undoubtedly benefit the Palestinian economy in the long-run.
Quite often people who use this argument tend to be unabashed Israel-supporters whose bluff needs to be called. If it is concern about Palestinian well-being that motivates them, are they willing to unequivocally condemn Israeli occupation and apartheid—without a doubt the main causes of Palestinian suffering—with the same vigilance as they do BDS?
So Michael, if you’re so concerned about the Palestinians, are you willing to condemn Israeli occupation and apartheid that is the main cause of their suffering?
Didn’t think so.
i don’t know why a whole muslim nation doesn’t do anything about it’s life and dedicates it all in frustration and hatre to israel and israelis. I WISH I COULD SEE YOU STARTING TO DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR OWN LIFES SO PEOPLE COULD COME WORK FOR YOU TOO. DEVELOP SOMETHING, DO SOMETHING, INVENT SOMETHING, GET A NOBEL PRIZE, ANYTHING TO MAKE US WANT TO BE LIKE YOU. B UT NOOO, YOU LIE TO YOURSELF AND TO EVERYBODY ELSE STUPID TO BELIEVE YOU AND YOU GO SLEEP AT NIGHT THINKING THAT MAYBE YOU MADE ANOTHER ONE HATE ISRAEL TODAY. DON’T YOU CARE THAT YOUR OWN CHILDREN LIVE IN THIS WORLD WHERE YOU BREATH THE AIR WITHOUT REASON? AT LEAST STOP MAKING CHILDREN SO THAT OUR CHILDREN CAN FINALLY LIVE IN A WORLD OF PEACE. I AM NOT ISRAELI NOR JEWISH BUT I HAVE NEVER SEEN AN ISRAELI PACKED WITH BOMBS IN BUSES WITH CHILDREN . I HAVE SEEN THEM MAKING BUSINESS AND GIVING JOBS AND I CAN’T TELL THE SAME ABOUT YOU PEOPLE.
GO GET A LIFE, START TO LIVE IT AND YOU’LL FIND THE MEANING OF LIFE WHICH IS NOT TO KILL ISRAEL. WHILE YOU ARE LIVING IN THE BOX OF FRUSTRATION ISRAEL LIVES HIS LIFE HAPPILY AND DOESN’T GIVE A SH*T ABOUT YOU.
I KNOW YOU WILL NOT POST THIS BECAUSE YOU CAN’T BE THAT CORRECT BUT HOPEFULLY YOU WILL READ IT AND FIND THAT YOU ARE DISTURBING US !!!
Gosh Alice, we don’t know where to start…
“Nazi scum…give up and f*ck off.”
From Patrick M:
This is an appalling article totally biased. There are 1.5m Arabs in Israel, how many Jews are there in Jordan? Israeli Arabs elect 10 members to the Knesset – how many black people were elected to the old South African parliament? Arabs serve in the Judiciary, the Israeli Army and the police in Israel. The author of this article is extremely biased and quite anti Semitic.
I have just been to the West Bank and met some deeply oppressed people but they were Christian Palestinians living on the West Bank whose only crime was that they were once Muslims but chose to become Christians. They cant say this openly because they would be arrested by the PA; some have been tortured for their faith in Christ. What does the BDS movement say about this? or the inclusion of Sharia Law in the Draft constitution of the PA? or the recent kidnapping and forced conversion this past July of 2 Christians in Gaza (according to Bishop Alkesius, head of the Orthodox community in the Gaza Strip)????? Is the Palestinian Solidarity Campaign concerned about the growing Apartheid in Gaza, if one is a non Muslim?
Congratulations Patrick! You’re an official ‘Zio-nut’ because nowhere in your rambling email do you address the injustices suffered by Palestinians, or the many crimes committed by Israel. Like all Zio-nuts, you label those who criticise Israel as anti-Semitic and try to deflect and excuse Israel’s 64 years of committing genocide by highlighting (real or imagined) human rights abuses committed by other entities. Have you ever campaigned for human rights or attended a demonstration? We doubt it.
From Anthony K:
You guys are sickening to me. Grow a pair and stop knocking off companies and products. your stupid enough to fall for a sales trick thats your fault. I have shopped at the onsen store in wesftield londen. Products work great. Everyone skin is different and reacts different to what the product does . do some research before knocking off someone next time. London Born now in the us. You guys are something else. check out their site and order from their if you cant handle sales tactics then maybe you should stay home.
From Steven Maisson:
Great products! great sales persons! to buy or not is your option… i wish i had them working for me. god bless them,
From David Parsons:
After reading this, I have decided to buy more Ahava products.I hope you realize that most of the so called Palestinians are decended from the worker from mostly Egypt brought in by the Ottoman Turks. The real long time Arab residents are the Bedoins who alligned with Israel and serve in the Israeli Defense force, as do the Druse.
From Ginger Garvin:
Ahava products are wonderful and great for the skin. Where do you all get off that this is Palestine’s land? God gave this land to His choosen race— the Israelites. No I’ not a Jew but I will support them to my death. I’m buying more Ahave now than I ever have, and getting my friends and neighbors to buy it. The reason London doesn’t sell it is because London is now Muslim.
You’ve bullied a Jewish shop into leaving the neighbourhood. Hope you’re aware of the distasteful historical resonance of what you’ve just done.
You mean Ahava? We never realised that any “Jewish shop” trades during the Sabbath.
From Harvey, a rickshaw driver:
You say you have lots of respect for those willing to get arrested for their beliefs In this instance their arrests resulted in their being found guilty of criminal trespass ie they broke the law . Evidently, you condone breaking the law in order to facilitate your cause such as it is. Those of us who oppose you understand that this has little to do with ahava and all to do with your actual objectives which is to delegitimize israel . For you there can be no solution other then an Islamic one state solution. How that can be achieved except through bloodshed on an unprecedented scale is not your concern . The cause is everything .
Your assertion that israel is an apartheid state is without foundation and beneath contempt.
The reality is that israel is surrounded by a sea of apartheid , the subjugation of religious minorities ,misogyny and homophobia on a grand scale . No more so apparent then in the west bank and gaza where if you are not killing Jews for lack of opportunity you murder your own NGOs and moderates
Returning to my original theme , you may have intimidated a few harmless shopkeepers and created a nuisance but that is all you have done
In the meantime , this week I hosted an Israeli telecoms company that concluded a 60 million pound contract . This happens week in week out I have no doubt that your mobile phone service and IT software comes courtesy of Israeli technology
But carry on the ‘good work ‘ clearing a few shelves of stock
We will stock up 100 times over with every clearance and continue to confront the mendacity and hatred of your spurious cause
From Johnny Walker:
Re: your response on feeble minded…. I rest my case ladies and gentlemen of the jury. Now off you go BDS to the dustbin of history. Jews are used to your pathetic kind over thousands of years but when you look back, they have all disappeared while Jews remain and thrive. BDS won’t even be a footnote in the history books… merely a burp!!!
“every dog has his day” and yours BDS is around the corner. The more noise you pathetic losers make, the stronger Israel gets. Can one imagine over 1 billion muslims crying about 7.5 million Israelis of which 2 million are Arab fifth columnists??? How sick is that??
And what does it say about the 1 billion muslims??? I shudder to think. lol
From Harvey, the rickshaw driver (again):
I’m surprised that you can afford to dine out…
You do know that by boycotting Israeli goods, you are therefore limiting your communication outlets. E.g. if you have a mobile phone, you must throw it away as it was developed in Israel, particularly Motorolas…
From Philip Lewis:
Are you stating that Ahava mud is mixed with Palestinian blood? If not what is meant by Dead Sea Mud Palestinian Blood?